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iPodHacker_ · 10-07-2007, 06:28 PM

There seems to have been numerous reports of the 2nd and 3rd Generation Nano being un-encyrpted.

If you have proof or a strong reason to believe that these rumors are true, you are to post in this thread, stating where you got the information, and if its valid.

Thanks.

imphasing · 10-09-2007, 12:01 PM

Unencrypting the 2nd-3rd generation nanos isn't exactly feasible, by any methods that people have tried. Bruteforcing takes too long, with such a long key. Firmware exploits aren't any good, because the decryption either resides in the flash bootloader or the on-board flash on the processor. The only real way to do this is to dump the flash chip (which may not be that hard) to see if it happens there. If so, we're good. If not, and the flash is encrypted, it's going to be harder. The on-board flash on the processor will need to be dumped, which could be the answer. If not, it's going to be even harder. The new processor may have custom hardware that decrypts on the fly, which will need to be probed and reverse engineered to see how it works.

Not easy. Any reports are most likely false, so don't get your hopes up.

Alex

pspboy123 · 10-10-2007, 03:52 AM

the encryption for the 2g nano is almost decrypted, look here
http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=29722

StarDust · 10-10-2007, 09:36 AM

< spam >
It's post number six in that thread (linky!).

Clarified in post number eight (linky!).

< /spam >

imphasing · 10-10-2007, 05:44 PM

It's not almost decrypted. Decryption isn't going to happen without extensive hardware probing.

Alex

.asian · 10-11-2007, 08:02 PM

It's not close to being decrypted...
Only thing that happened with the 2G is that you can use it with Linux-OS computers/other programs to add music other than iTunes.

.asian

SK8er_munkie · 10-17-2007, 07:28 PM

nope......
stilll for a while. ive done some research and its mabye about 4-7% finished. pluss, theyre stuck at a dead end. plus, iPL and rockbox have quit. screwed!

IAmZeus · 10-18-2007, 07:13 PM

looks like theres no hope. i mean.
even if they do get decrypted.
most people wont care.

Trent · 10-21-2007, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SK8er_munkie

nope......
stilll for a while. ive done some research and its mabye about 4-7% finished. pluss, theyre stuck at a dead end. plus, iPL and rockbox have quit. screwed!

So SK8er_munkie... If you say that you have done all this research, where did you find that they are 4-7% finished with it.

modpod · 10-21-2007, 08:25 PM

Listen, with this decryption stuff, you either have a key that does works, or does not work. So there is no 5% or 10% of 42%. It's either 0% or 100%. The amount of firmware decrypted right now is 0%. Period. End of story.

10-07-2007, 06:28 PM		#1
	iPodHacker_ Staff Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,854	2nd+3rd Generation Encryption Thread There seems to have been numerous reports of the 2nd and 3rd Generation Nano being un-encyrpted. If you have proof or a strong reason to believe that these rumors are true, you are to post in this thread, stating where you got the information, and if its valid. Thanks.

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10-09-2007, 12:01 PM		#2
	imphasing New iPodder Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7	Unencrypting the 2nd-3rd generation nanos isn't exactly feasible, by any methods that people have tried. Bruteforcing takes too long, with such a long key. Firmware exploits aren't any good, because the decryption either resides in the flash bootloader or the on-board flash on the processor. The only real way to do this is to dump the flash chip (which may not be that hard) to see if it happens there. If so, we're good. If not, and the flash is encrypted, it's going to be harder. The on-board flash on the processor will need to be dumped, which could be the answer. If not, it's going to be even harder. The new processor may have custom hardware that decrypts on the fly, which will need to be probed and reverse engineered to see how it works. Not easy. Any reports are most likely false, so don't get your hopes up. Alex

10-10-2007, 03:52 AM		#3
	pspboy123 Junior iPodder Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 32	the encryption for the 2g nano is almost decrypted, look here http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=29722

10-10-2007, 09:36 AM		#4
	StarDust Junior iPodder Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 65	< spam > It's post number six in that thread (linky!). Clarified in post number eight (linky!). < /spam >

10-10-2007, 05:44 PM		#5
	imphasing New iPodder Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7	It's not almost decrypted. Decryption isn't going to happen without extensive hardware probing. Alex

10-11-2007, 08:02 PM		#6
	.asian Master iPodder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 717	It's not close to being decrypted... Only thing that happened with the 2G is that you can use it with Linux-OS computers/other programs to add music other than iTunes. .asian

10-17-2007, 07:28 PM		#7
	SK8er_munkie Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a house. Posts: 136	nope...... stilll for a while. ive done some research and its mabye about 4-7% finished. pluss, theyre stuck at a dead end. plus, iPL and rockbox have quit. screwed!

10-18-2007, 07:13 PM		#8
	IAmZeus Rawr Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nine.Zero.Nine. Posts: 1,145	looks like theres no hope. i mean. even if they do get decrypted. most people wont care.

10-21-2007, 08:25 PM		#10
	modpod Skilled iPodder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Just Outside Philly Posts: 304	Listen, with this decryption stuff, you either have a key that does works, or does not work. So there is no 5% or 10% of 42%. It's either 0% or 100%. The amount of firmware decrypted right now is 0%. Period. End of story.