iPodWizard.net

da_ipod_guy · 04-09-2007, 05:02 PM

PM me if u have questions
**** THE PICS DONT WORK SRrY
To see this hack/mod in motion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scnjoG_C6Sw

This little mod is so much easier than a lot of people think. Its was just a simple case of lateral thinking on my part. The guys from iPodlinux.org are the true geniuses. All you need is basic soldering skills. Be aware that the socket on mine sticks out by about 2mm, it may be possible to get it flush, but I only had a day to do it and thought the benefits out weighed the slight imperfection. I am not responsible if you kill your iPod or if you loose all your music or if your anything else. Be careful those things aren't cheap. Be sure to read ALL of this tutorial before opening up your iPod.

There's also a few people who think this is also a dock. Its not. But this could easily be added (if you don't know how just mail me an I'll point you in the right direction).

Things you'll need.

1. iPod photo (it may be possible on other models, but I haven't tried it. You could probably figure it out for yourself). With iPodlinux installed. For this check out iPodlinux.org. If you like it make a donation. Those guys have worked very hard for free to create this amazing app.
2.iPod tools (something to crack it open)
3. iPod screwdriver. These are small star shaped drivers.
4.Magnet wire. I got mine from an old hobby motor.
5.Kynar wire. Available in the estore.
6.Mini usb socket. Also in the estore.
7.Mini usb plug.
8.Soldering iron. Any (apart from those massive gun type things).
9.Cutting tool.
10.Hot glue.
11. Plastic enclosure.
12. Supper glue.
13.Little bit of foam.
14. Last but not least, an old school controller. Any will do. I went for the NES because its cool and small.
Oh and don't forget you need to have no problem voiding your warrantee.

Assambly

First you need to disassemble your iPod (with the tools mentioned above). I wont go into this too much as there are many tutorials for this available on the net. I left my battery unplugged while I was working on it.

Once you've got that part over with. You need to get your magnet wire. Cut 5 pieces about 20cm long. After its cut you need to scrape all the paint off both ends, then tin them with solder.

Next solder a piece of magnet wire to each of the points shown on the pic (red for live black for ground).

Route your wires carefully through the silver part that holds on the click wheel (its important to do this well or your buttons wont click properly). Once you've done that boot up Linux and start up doom. Now you can check your wiring. Touch each of the wires to the ground wire. You should start moving around a bit now. If nothing happens check your wiring.

Now for the scary part. Your gona need to cut a hole for the usb plug. I am no expert when it comes to this so I just cut a slot, but you may be able to cut a hole. Place the socket in the area its going to go and mark out the back plate accordingly. Then get your cutting tool on the go. Be careful to make this a good tight fit, it'll help stop the socket pulling out when you take the iPod out of the controller.

Then your gona have to take a piece out of the white part of the iPod again this will make some room for the socket. Its a tight fit but doable.

Now line up your socket in its correct place (you may want to unplug your hd at this point). Lay the wires out roughly where you want them. Then cut scrape and tin yore wires. Now solder the wires to the points on the socket (the housing is a solder point too, use that for the ground).

Now its time to see if your socket fits. Slowly put your iPod back together. Try to keep an eye on what's happening with the wires. Once its closed up boot up Linux again. Plug in your plug and use a bit of wire to check you've haven't pulled anything out or shorted anything. If every thing works you can add some glue to stop it moving around and fill in the gap. Congrats you can move on to the controller. If not get her open and re check everything (took me three goes).

Now its the controller. First get open it up and remove the controllers cable. Then solder a good length of wire to each of the points shown in the pic (there's now way to go backwards in iDoom so don't worry about that bit, down is fire).

Now pop the pcb back in the front part of the case. Now drill a hole through the back part of the case and rout the wires through the back. Now solder the ground wire to the housing of your socket and plug it in to your iPod. Then check each of the wire by loading up doom and bushing the corresponding button and pressing the wire to the solder points. Make a not of which goes where. Then trim your wires down and solder them to the plug and assemble it. You can now play doom with your controller. Cool. (your probably wondering about the centre button, I am coming to that)

Now your gona make the iPod holder. Cut up your plastic enclosure to the shape shown. Then plug the iPod in to the controller and lay it in the plastic back where you want it to fit. Now for some hot glue. Get loads on the plug (don't get it on your iPod). Let it dry then unplug the iPod (careful not to move the socket) and add more hot glue until you're sure its not gona move.
Plug your iPod back in and glue some foam around it to make a nice snug fit. Then supper glue that to the back of your controller and let it dry.

You can now play doom.wads with your NES controller. Your cool or a geek or both who cares We think its cool eh?. . . Oh and to press the centre button lightly squeeze the back of the controller (simple really).
Possible improvements you might want to try. Wiring the keys to the iPod standard port (I didn't do this as I didn't have a spare plug) and using that instead off the usb socket.

Map the centre button to B If you can find plugs with 6 solder points (including the housing) you can map this to the B button.

Valten77 · 04-09-2007, 05:48 PM

HAHA that is sweet but i am too scared to try this on my video
Awesome idea tho

da_ipod_guy · 04-09-2007, 07:58 PM

if u do try n u &^)% up ur ipod send me the bill

Morgii · 04-09-2007, 07:59 PM

yeah, i thought it was for older ipods.. i'm gonna wait until someone successfully does it on a 5G...good tut tho!

-- Morgii

omfgkm · 04-10-2007, 11:59 AM

All someone needs to do is route the wiring from an NES controller (which is actually quite simple) to a driver that sends the signals to the iPod through the conventional USB cord. Can't be too difficult, when you imagine the stuff that third-party companies have done already (radio/charger accessories, etc). I've been working on remotely triggering the touchwheel points and buttonpresses without the use of manual wiring, or even opening up your iPod at all. I've made some progress with the physical model, which consists of a traditional NES controller with a holding case on the back and the iPod-end of a traditional USB cord. I just need to make the connection and set up a way for the device to send a recognizable signal that will trigger the effects of tapping the touchwheel or pressing the buttons. I'll send pictures of my progress eventually.

nickboardkid · 04-10-2007, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da_ipod_guy

if u do try n u &^)% up ur ipod send me the bill

seriously? because ill try it on my 5.5g

EndMurdoch · 04-10-2007, 12:51 PM

http://www.acidmods.com/tutorials/Ipodnes.ASP
Congrats, you can copy, paste, and claim someone else's hard work as your own. :dry:

da_ipod_guy · 04-10-2007, 01:20 PM

yah i c/p it but i was able to get it to work with my ipod video
i posted the tut so other ppl could try it

DarkWarrior · 04-10-2007, 02:54 PM

Well im working on this for the video but i got a question for some smarter ppl see this pic.... well the pic isnt working so ill tell you this mood would be just like the one acid mod made except that the buttons are on the ipod differently and what i mean by that is that they are soderd on to the main board oh and the fack that they have plastic over the rest of the wiring but i dont think the plastic will be a problem if i soder very carfuly scince the live me a 1/2 a mm to coder on or less but one more thing i have regular wire all over my house could i use that instead? of the Magnet wire or the Kynar wire?

da_ipod_guy · 04-10-2007, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkWarrior

Well im working on this for the video but i got a question for some smarter ppl see this pic.... well the pic isnt working so ill tell you this mood would be just like the one acid mod made except that the buttons are on the ipod differently and what i mean by that is that they are soderd on to the main board oh and the fack that they have plastic over the rest of the wiring but i dont think the plastic will be a problem if i soder very carfuly scince the live me a 1/2 a mm to coder on or less but one more thing i have regular wire all over my house could i use that instead? of the Magnet wire or the Kynar wire?

post the pic (20 chra)

04-09-2007, 05:02 PM		#1
	da_ipod_guy Apprentice iPodder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Denmark Posts: 146	NES hack + how to make it PM me if u have questions ** THE PICS DONT WORK SRrY To see this hack/mod in motion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scnjoG_C6Sw This little mod is so much easier than a lot of people think. Its was just a simple case of lateral thinking on my part. The guys from iPodlinux.org are the true geniuses. All you need is basic soldering skills. Be aware that the socket on mine sticks out by about 2mm, it may be possible to get it flush, but I only had a day to do it and thought the benefits out weighed the slight imperfection. I am not responsible if you kill your iPod or if you loose all your music or if your anything else. Be careful those things aren't cheap. Be sure to read ALL of this tutorial before opening up your iPod. There's also a few people who think this is also a dock. Its not. But this could easily be added (if you don't know how just mail me an I'll point you in the right direction). Things you'll need. 1. iPod photo (it may be possible on other models, but I haven't tried it. You could probably figure it out for yourself). With iPodlinux installed. For this check out iPodlinux.org. If you like it make a donation. Those guys have worked very hard for free to create this amazing app. 2.iPod tools (something to crack it open) 3. iPod screwdriver. These are small star shaped drivers. 4.Magnet wire. I got mine from an old hobby motor. 5.Kynar wire. Available in the estore. 6.Mini usb socket. Also in the estore. 7.Mini usb plug. 8.Soldering iron. Any (apart from those massive gun type things). 9.Cutting tool. 10.Hot glue. 11. Plastic enclosure. 12. Supper glue. 13.Little bit of foam. 14. Last but not least, an old school controller. Any will do. I went for the NES because its cool and small. Oh and don't forget you need to have no problem voiding your warrantee. Assambly** First you need to disassemble your iPod (with the tools mentioned above). I wont go into this too much as there are many tutorials for this available on the net. I left my battery unplugged while I was working on it. Once you've got that part over with. You need to get your magnet wire. Cut 5 pieces about 20cm long. After its cut you need to scrape all the paint off both ends, then tin them with solder. Next solder a piece of magnet wire to each of the points shown on the pic (red for live black for ground). Route your wires carefully through the silver part that holds on the click wheel (its important to do this well or your buttons wont click properly). Once you've done that boot up Linux and start up doom. Now you can check your wiring. Touch each of the wires to the ground wire. You should start moving around a bit now. If nothing happens check your wiring. Now for the scary part. Your gona need to cut a hole for the usb plug. I am no expert when it comes to this so I just cut a slot, but you may be able to cut a hole. Place the socket in the area its going to go and mark out the back plate accordingly. Then get your cutting tool on the go. Be careful to make this a good tight fit, it'll help stop the socket pulling out when you take the iPod out of the controller. Then your gona have to take a piece out of the white part of the iPod again this will make some room for the socket. Its a tight fit but doable. Now line up your socket in its correct place (you may want to unplug your hd at this point). Lay the wires out roughly where you want them. Then cut scrape and tin yore wires. Now solder the wires to the points on the socket (the housing is a solder point too, use that for the ground). Now its time to see if your socket fits. Slowly put your iPod back together. Try to keep an eye on what's happening with the wires. Once its closed up boot up Linux again. Plug in your plug and use a bit of wire to check you've haven't pulled anything out or shorted anything. If every thing works you can add some glue to stop it moving around and fill in the gap. Congrats you can move on to the controller. If not get her open and re check everything (took me three goes). Now its the controller. First get open it up and remove the controllers cable. Then solder a good length of wire to each of the points shown in the pic (there's now way to go backwards in iDoom so don't worry about that bit, down is fire). Now pop the pcb back in the front part of the case. Now drill a hole through the back part of the case and rout the wires through the back. Now solder the ground wire to the housing of your socket and plug it in to your iPod. Then check each of the wire by loading up doom and bushing the corresponding button and pressing the wire to the solder points. Make a not of which goes where. Then trim your wires down and solder them to the plug and assemble it. You can now play doom with your controller. Cool. (your probably wondering about the centre button, I am coming to that) Now your gona make the iPod holder. Cut up your plastic enclosure to the shape shown. Then plug the iPod in to the controller and lay it in the plastic back where you want it to fit. Now for some hot glue. Get loads on the plug (don't get it on your iPod). Let it dry then unplug the iPod (careful not to move the socket) and add more hot glue until you're sure its not gona move. Plug your iPod back in and glue some foam around it to make a nice snug fit. Then supper glue that to the back of your controller and let it dry. You can now play doom.wads with your NES controller. Your cool or a geek or both who cares We think its cool eh?. . . Oh and to press the centre button lightly squeeze the back of the controller (simple really). Possible improvements you might want to try. Wiring the keys to the iPod standard port (I didn't do this as I didn't have a spare plug) and using that instead off the usb socket. Map the centre button to B If you can find plugs with 6 solder points (including the housing) you can map this to the B button. Last edited by da_ipod_guy; 04-09-2007 at 05:12 PM.. Reason: PIC DIDN'T WORK and POSTED THE VIDEO and the video didn't work so posted link

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04-09-2007, 05:48 PM		#2
	Valten77 New iPodder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 5	HAHA that is sweet but i am too scared to try this on my video Awesome idea tho

04-09-2007, 07:58 PM		#3
	da_ipod_guy Apprentice iPodder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Denmark Posts: 146	if u do try n u &^)% up ur ipod send me the bill

04-09-2007, 07:59 PM		#4
	Morgii Apprentice iPodder Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 230	yeah, i thought it was for older ipods.. i'm gonna wait until someone successfully does it on a 5G...good tut tho! -- Morgii

04-10-2007, 11:59 AM		#5
	omfgkm Apprentice iPodder Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 155	All someone needs to do is route the wiring from an NES controller (which is actually quite simple) to a driver that sends the signals to the iPod through the conventional USB cord. Can't be too difficult, when you imagine the stuff that third-party companies have done already (radio/charger accessories, etc). I've been working on remotely triggering the touchwheel points and buttonpresses without the use of manual wiring, or even opening up your iPod at all. I've made some progress with the physical model, which consists of a traditional NES controller with a holding case on the back and the iPod-end of a traditional USB cord. I just need to make the connection and set up a way for the device to send a recognizable signal that will trigger the effects of tapping the touchwheel or pressing the buttons. I'll send pictures of my progress eventually.

04-10-2007, 12:51 PM		#7
	EndMurdoch . Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 760	http://www.acidmods.com/tutorials/Ipodnes.ASP Congrats, you can copy, paste, and claim someone else's hard work as your own. :dry:

04-10-2007, 01:20 PM		#8
	da_ipod_guy Apprentice iPodder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Denmark Posts: 146	yah i c/p it but i was able to get it to work with my ipod video i posted the tut so other ppl could try it

04-10-2007, 02:54 PM		#9
	DarkWarrior _________________________ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A interesting place Posts: 1,623	Well im working on this for the video but i got a question for some smarter ppl see this pic.... well the pic isnt working so ill tell you this mood would be just like the one acid mod made except that the buttons are on the ipod differently and what i mean by that is that they are soderd on to the main board oh and the fack that they have plastic over the rest of the wiring but i dont think the plastic will be a problem if i soder very carfuly scince the live me a 1/2 a mm to coder on or less but one more thing i have regular wire all over my house could i use that instead? of the Magnet wire or the Kynar wire?